LLI 37 Seeing Is Believing: How Our Minds Shape Reality

00:00:00: Let's have a look today at what is virtuality and what is reality.

00:00:06: So we have spent quite a few days and iterations on reality and truth.

00:00:16: Now as we live as human beings in a modern world, and it's worthwhile to explore virtuality

00:00:26: too, especially with the amount of advancement in technology that we have.

00:00:36: This is iteration number 37 of the Love Louder podcast and I'm so glad that we're in this

00:00:42: together.

00:00:44: I just finished reading a book.

00:00:48: It's by Christian Meekunda and he is Austrian.

00:00:54: He's a dramatic advisor working internationally with companies, has his own company and it's

00:01:04: all about using strategy and the mechanics of drama for marketing in his area of application,

00:01:19: but also to create spaces to shop and stores and brand lands that are agreeable for the

00:01:31: customer for the one who experiences it for human beings.

00:01:38: Because according to his opinion, where we shop and that we shop is now part of our lifestyle

00:01:47: and this is why it's important because it's not just lifestyle, it's part of our life

00:01:52: already and that's why we have to create the circumstances and form them and design them

00:02:02: in the way circumstances in regard to where we have the power to, for example in the stores

00:02:10: when we build a business, when we have a business in a way that sells life.

00:02:24: Quite deep isn't it?

00:02:26: You wouldn't expect when you hear marketing at first and he is using his experience from

00:02:37: films and from the movie industry and TV because he has been working there a lot and now he

00:02:45: just pays it forward to not only the professional individuals or companies but also to students

00:02:57: and universities and teaching.

00:03:01: So this book, it's in German, I haven't found an English version so I'll translate and

00:03:10: paraphrase it as much as I can.

00:03:16: The book's title is translated in English to "The Forbidden Place or the Ultimate Temptation".

00:03:27: Wow.

00:03:30: What a title for a marketing book isn't it?

00:03:32: So I'm learning about marketing too and I'm learning about how the mechanisms of the

00:03:40: human psychology work together with what we can find already in the world and how experiences

00:03:51: are designed in our daily life that go very well to our natural tendency.

00:04:00: So what I learned through this book is it's not about finding something new, inventing

00:04:11: something that is totally out of the blue, extraordinary, alien, not known yet but taking

00:04:19: what is, what the human tendency is, what we have inert already, what fits our patterns

00:04:30: and to use this to create experiences.

00:04:34: And so he displays a lot of techniques and a lot of very artful techniques and methodology

00:04:42: and methods.

00:04:44: It's so interesting even if you are not in business, even if you're not using it professionally,

00:04:56: it's really worth reading it because it's just so enlightening or illuminating when

00:05:05: you as a customer walk around the city how, through shopping centers but also like the

00:05:14: city layout, everything is designed as much as possible to suit that human, humanity and

00:05:27: to make it agreeable and not just to make it agreeable to sell something, to offer a

00:05:35: product but also to transmit the message that a company stands for.

00:05:43: To empower the employees in a way that they can recharge, that they can, of course, it's

00:05:52: still in the context of business there so they can be more productive.

00:06:01: And I found it so interesting because there's nowadays no corner in the world, especially

00:06:11: when it's industrialized, when people meet in an open space, when they live together,

00:06:19: when they interact together, when there's sales and marketing and vendors and buyers,

00:06:26: that there's something left raw and not designed and if it's left raw, it is very often following

00:06:37: these principles he's mentioning in the book just because it's our human way to go about

00:06:46: things.

00:06:52: And through the book, later on in the chapter, he goes further into virtuality and reality

00:07:04: and virtual reality.

00:07:07: So what is virtuality?

00:07:09: It's very, very simple.

00:07:11: It's just real according to an idea.

00:07:16: So the thing that we're talking about whatever is virtual, for example, a virtual classroom,

00:07:22: it does not exist physically as a room where you can walk in with chairs and a chalkboard.

00:07:31: The virtual classroom is where you have the same functions, where you have the idea of

00:07:36: the classroom, where you can open up chat rooms, where you can teach, where you can have sessions

00:07:45: and learn from students and learn from teachers and have different subjects and co-working

00:07:52: spaces, co-learning spaces, that it resembles a classroom.

00:07:59: Now what makes it virtual?

00:08:02: Here is just that it is following the idea of a classroom and then not having the physical

00:08:10: representation of it, but still being used as the idea.

00:08:16: The virtual reality just means that we are now having this, let's say with the classroom,

00:08:27: following this example of a classroom, this setup, this theme, and we add something that

00:08:33: makes us think into we are being in there.

00:08:39: So the virtual classroom is probably not a virtual reality because we still know that

00:08:45: we sit in front of a laptop or a computer and just entering the classroom in and out.

00:08:51: The virtual reality adds an element and there are several elements you can add.

00:08:57: One is he's calling it seeing is believing.

00:09:00: So for example, adding details that make the whole thing very plausible, that you can immerse

00:09:08: yourself in, that you do not question the reality of what you experience in this moment

00:09:16: and if it's virtual or not.

00:09:18: That is virtual reality.

00:09:21: An example that comes to my mind is that rides that you sometimes find on fares or in adventure

00:09:32: parks where you have the roller coasters and different rides.

00:09:37: And one is the simulator of, for example, a ride through a pyramid or through a mine.

00:09:46: And then you enter just the simulator, you sit on a seat, there will be the screen and

00:09:52: there will be a film that just shows you the view of as if you were sitting in this little

00:10:00: card from that mining train seeing in front of you speeding through the mine and at the

00:10:10: same time the whole room that encapsulated little space you sit in, it is moving by

00:10:17: hydraulics and different techniques so you can feel the motion and they add another layer

00:10:24: of sound to it.

00:10:25: So you hear it rattling, you hear the wind blowing and sometimes you hear the wind blowing

00:10:29: Sometimes they even add this kinesthetic sense to it when they have little outlets for air

00:10:40: to be blown into your face.

00:10:43: And all these informations you get in your brain are then processed as, "Wow, this

00:10:50: is real.

00:10:52: This is not virtual anymore.

00:10:54: This is what it's called virtual reality."

00:10:56: You might have experienced it already.

00:11:03: Now here's what comes further from this.

00:11:12: It's not just about exploring what virtual reality is.

00:11:19: It means it's just about having our senses, collecting information and being collected

00:11:30: in the brain processed in a way that we think this is real.

00:11:34: Now this is our reality too and it's immersive and we do not question it.

00:11:41: And very often times we just do not question our self being in this reality.

00:11:46: That is what our life is.

00:11:48: What is the world we live in?

00:11:50: It is virtual too.

00:11:54: Nobody has access to that what we call the tree in its objectiveness because it's all

00:12:03: filtered through our senses processed in that crazy computer called brain.

00:12:12: And Christian Mikunda addresses it by saying, "To make a distinction, to draw a distinction

00:12:20: between virtuality and reality is actually now because it's the same mechanisms."

00:12:30: We cannot say like, "Enter a room.

00:12:33: This is the virtual room and then we go back to reality."

00:12:37: No, our reality too is virtual.

00:12:42: It is a dream.

00:12:46: It is a trance which is the base of hypnotherapy too.

00:12:56: That everything is trance and it just, hypnosis is just the invitation to enter trance, hypnosis

00:13:04: together.

00:13:06: Because never about the hypnotherapist doing something to you without being with you, it's

00:13:15: the invitation to be together in a trance to move through it.

00:13:24: Crazy isn't it?

00:13:29: Now I wonder what this means for our lives then because why is it that if we go to dreams

00:13:36: now, dreams is the same thing.

00:13:39: We wake up, we think we're awake yet we're still in the dream because it's exactly the

00:13:46: same feeling.

00:13:48: When we're in the dream everything is real.

00:13:51: Everything is possible too.

00:13:54: And most of the time we're not aware of that we are dreaming, we only know when we wake

00:13:59: up.

00:14:00: Sometimes we get a notion.

00:14:02: And I have practiced lucid dreaming for a while and it takes quite a lot of time so I did

00:14:09: not get to mastery in this.

00:14:12: But it's really interesting to explore it if you want then just go ahead.

00:14:19: So at first you're going to be going in with the intention to really not miss the point

00:14:25: where you glide into sleep so you'll be still awake when you sleep but click your fall asleep

00:14:34: but then you're awake again just waking up in the next morning and having missed that

00:14:40: transition.

00:14:41: So it's really easily to slip through your consciousness.

00:14:47: And it's going to take a while and sometimes it's just by grace or by chance that you end

00:14:52: up like in this half waking half dreaming state where you know that you are dreaming but you

00:15:01: are still dreaming but you're not fully dreaming you are awake already.

00:15:07: That's another state or stage and then there would be the practice of actually playing

00:15:14: in the dream knowing that you are dreaming but also knowing that you can change the dream.

00:15:21: And I've got there once or twice or three times maybe.

00:15:25: And it's really interesting because it's not like oh yes of course I'm going to do this

00:15:30: now and then I'm going to create this.

00:15:33: At first I wasn't all.

00:15:35: I was so surprised.

00:15:36: I was shocked like is this really possible?

00:15:41: Like there's so much also power hidden in it.

00:15:47: Power but in a very soft way in a very creative way in a very natural way that it is inherent

00:15:56: to us that we are the channels for creation even if the ideas are not ours.

00:16:07: And at first you will enter this moment of shock surprise when you get to the realization

00:16:14: and not just the realization the application of it because realization without application

00:16:23: in this world as a human being is just nothing.

00:16:28: It does not it does not make a difference if you have realized something and not apply

00:16:35: it to somebody who's in blissful ignorance because the actions will be the same.

00:16:48: So why is it that we are in our reality limiting ourselves and taking our beliefs so serious

00:16:56: that we limit this capacity of creation?

00:17:02: And I believe that we do not have to seek for truth.

00:17:08: We do not have to seek for wisdom.

00:17:12: It is wisdom and truth seeking us chasing us.

00:17:16: It just depends on if we open ourselves up to it which is very often described as the

00:17:22: seeker the one who's in search of enlightenment of relief of this idea that there must be

00:17:31: another way.

00:17:33: But yet it's just about opening ourselves up to that possibility that everything is

00:17:38: already done decided and we can get caught up in the teachings that there are out there

00:17:48: that say and even in this podcast that say that is truth and it's simple and you cannot

00:17:55: decide or you do not have any decision really even if you decide because then it just satisfies

00:18:03: our ego to not be moving again in a world that is constantly moving.

00:18:10: So the only chance we have is to immerse ourselves deeply in our humanity in humanity in the

00:18:18: collective in the individual.

00:18:28: Here's where we find truth and here's where we get to a neutral space eventually and that

00:18:39: is where creation and creative life force stems from.

00:18:44: That is what erotic leadership is that is what eroticism is eroticism is not sexual

00:18:52: it is creative life force it's everywhere it's everything and erotic leadership stems

00:19:00: from this place using creation and not actively but being used by creation that has a lot to

00:19:11: do with surrender which is the entry topic that we started with 36 episodes ago at surrender

00:19:23: it's letting go and from this space anything is possible and if you have grasped it as

00:19:37: soon as you grasp it just in a tiny bit you get shocked like really really how can I could

00:19:47: I not have seen it how could I have spent so much time for example but this immense

00:19:55: vastness is just ready for us to get ready and that is just a little decision and a bit

00:20:05: of practice away just because we're human and I hope that this inspired you for today

00:20:21: I poured myself into you I just realized I'm empty everything that I will add now will

00:20:27: be just more words so it's time to stop and time to lead like a lover and love like a

00:20:38: leader take this as your guide if you wish and my invitation to you is to hear you and

00:20:51: listen to you and hear us each other in the next episode lots of love to you

00:20:58: Bye.